NYC H3

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The New York City Hash House Harriers

Description

by “What A C—!” May, 2024

The New York City Hash meets every Wednesday evening at 7PM all year round. Special events include our An*al General Meeting in May, our Red Dress Run in September and NYC Marathon Hash Weekend the weekend of the first Sunday in November. As an urban hash, arguably the most urban hash in the United States, we usually lay marks in chalk or drywall, unless there’s rain. Trails are usually 3-5 miles, and most of our members run, although walker-friendly trails are always available upon request.

We encompass sub-groups, including a book club, a bar trivia club and a racing club registered with NYC Road Runners and NYCRuns, for those interested in running where there isn’t beer. Our members are world-traveling hashers, and we welcome visitors with open arms.

NYCH3 was founded in the spring of 1984 by folks who had been r*nning at the nearby Summit Hash and the Big Apple Hash, (later known as the “New York Hash,” and then the “Westchester Hash,” and which, I believe, has now become inoperative). Early trails were often attended by Ian Cumming. Mr. Cumming, of course, was one of the original ‘running dogs’ at Mother Hash back in the day. On the occasion of NYCH3’s 500th r*n on September 10th, 1994, Ian had this to say:

A handwritten note from Ian Cumming

While we can no longer throw things at Carlson, we can continue the tradition of throwing things at one another in good spirit.

Receding Hareline (Previous 60 Days)

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Date/Time Start / Transit Info Subway/LIRR/Metro North/Path Hare(s) OnIn
NYC #2055
Start: Downtown Social
A to A with Happy hour prices all night, which means all beers are $4!
Metrosweatual
7/11 Hash
NYC #2054
Start: Vol de Nuit
148 West 4th Street, New York, NY 10012

Transit: A/C/E/B/D/F/M to West 4 St-Wash Sq

Kick off the 5 Borough Bar Crawl weekend with our second NYC 7-Eleven Trail! Trail will be walker friendly!

Trail will stop at seven 7-elevens where the pack will have the option to drink check. We’ll end at a park near the last 7-eleven and have circle there before moving to an On After nearby.

Hash cash is pay as you go, last time people to took turns buying 6/12-packs and it worked pretty well. Consider bringing a vessel on the trail if you’d like to split beers at drink stops!

During trail, you may choose to join in the Wisest Wizard challenge – drinking a beer at each 7-eleven, and taping your new beers to your empties – forming a wizard staff. The “wisest wizard” will be awarded and honored in circle. The winner will earn the illustrious prize of feeling like absolute dog shit the next day at work – and possibly having an argument with their significant other.


Check Motherfucker & Balls Out
Sunset trail
NYC #2053
Start: Nassau Bar, 118 Nassau St between Beekman St and Ann St
Transit: A/C/E to World Trade Center, 2/3/4/5 to Fulton St, R/W to Cortlandt St

A to B trail, ending in a park. Hash cash $5-10. On-after nearby for food.

On-In: Valentino Jr Park (Red Hook) followed by Keg and Lantern on-after

Mandatory Fun and CumligrapherValentino Jr Park (Red Hook) followed by Keg and Lantern on-after
2024 Pride Run!!!
NYC #2052
Start: REBAR 225 W 19th St
Transit: 1 to 18th St, C/E to 23rd St, F/M to 14th St, L to 6th Ave
The Fairy-ettes!
Just Roman’s Virgin Lay
NYC #2051
Start: Area 140 First Bar
Transit: L to 1st Ave, F to 2nd Ave, 6 to Astor Pl, R/W to 8th St/NYU

A to nearby B, Drink Check
Just Roman, Obamanatrix, Dime Store Tom Cruise
NYC #2050
Start: South end of Great Lawn (follow start arrows from 81st and CPW)
Transit: 81st B C 79th 1 86th 4 5 6

A-A, BYOB (and vessel), pack out at 7:15, DO NOT BE LATE, stay after for Phil in the Park
Geordi La Foreskin
NYC #2049
Start: Dive Bar, 732 Amsterdam Ave
Transit: 1/2/3 to 96th Street

A to B. Chicken-eagle (maybe). Drink check (maybe). New on-in (maybe).
Cheeky Bastard
Manhattanhenge Trail
NYC #2048
Start:

Bronx Brewery Hudson Yards

20 Hudson Yards New York NY 10001

A-B, chicken-eagle split, probably London Rules, and a lot of sunset!


Transit:

7 to 34th Hudson Yards, A C E to 34th Penn Station, Citibike, or r*n!


Check Motherfucker
NYC #2047
Start:

City Swiggers 320 E86th St.

A to B

In need of a bag hero!

Outdoor circle, circle beers will be provided but folks can bring their own too. We’ll likely move to indoor bar after circle.


Transit: 4/5/6 to 86th St, Q to 86th St
Field of Creams

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New York City Hash House Harriers History

by R. “Dogface” Gilbert, circa 2012

In the best Hash tradition, accounts of the NYCH3’s founding are generally misleading, incomplete, or wrong. The 500th Run Commemorative Newsletter history names the wrong founders, misspells their names, and leaves out a number of early officers. So to get the story straight, I consulted directly with Lee Carlson, now of Washington, D.C.

From my own observation, Lee was the driving force behind the early NYCH3, tirelessly promoting it throughout the tri-state region. Lee’s hashing history was set out in the July 1984 issue of Winged Foot, the newsletter of the New York Athletic Club. According to Lee, he first encountered the Hash in Singapore during the mid-sixties when he was a student there. During the ’80’s Lee hashed as a visitor in numerous Asian hashes, while calling Summit H3 his home Hash. The article clearly had been written some time before the founding of the NYCH3, since it does not mention the NYCH3 and it was about the time of the article that the NYCH3 was founded.

While Lee was running with Summit, Terry Peek was posted to the Australian Consulate in New York. “The Pale Whale”, as he was known, he was an enthusiastic hasher, running slowly and drinking copiously. Several Hash social functions were held at the Consulate as a result of his association with the Hash. While Lee was running with Summit and considering organizing a Hash in New York City, Terry entertained similar notions. Terry organized a new Hash in Rye called the Big Apple Hash on May 5, 1984. The Big Apple Hash ran five times with packs of three to five runners.

Neither Lee nor Terry were aware of each other’s efforts. In August 1984 Lee set a Summit Hash in Central Park which he advertised heavily at the New York Athletic Club and elsewhere. This run was used to promote the idea of a New York City Hash running in New York City. Shortly thereafter Lee and Terry joined efforts, and a new Hash was formed with the title, “New York City Hash House Harriers”.

The role of the New York Athletic Club parallels the Selangor Club’s role in Kuala Lumpur. The NYAC provided some of the original members, such as John Diesum, but the non-competitive nature of the runs proved too much and the NYAC’s participation waned.

Initially New York City varied its runs between Saturdays and Sundays, with the odd mid-week run thrown in, depending upon the Hashers’ schedules. After several years the current  schedule of Wednesdays in the summer, Sundays in the winter, was established [editor’s note: that schedule was revised in 2020 to Wednesday nights all year long]. Packs varied wildly in size from one week to the next in the early days. Twenty people was a crowd, seven or eight was not unusual. At least one run on the upper West Side drew only two runners, and was canceled for lack of interest. The hare (Peter Callaway), co-hare (Martha Barnes Callaway), and two-person pack (Lee Carlson and Keith Kanaga) retired immediately to the bar.

Packs now consistently number in the thirties during the summer, and the twenties in winter.

Some other notable personalities involved in the early New York City Hash included Yvonne “Kiwi” Smith, now retired from active Hashing in New Zealand; Martha (Barnes) Callaway, currently best known for Willie C; Linda (Friberg) Bradish, now resident in Vermont with her husband, and ardent hasher, Steve; and Michael Wimbs, who has disappeared. A certain P.H. Dippides graced the mast head of the newsletter for several years, reflecting Lee Carlson’s bent sense of humor and alter ego.

From the beginning there has always been good comaraderie and reciprocity between the New York (i.e., Westchester County) and New York City Hashes. In the 1970’s, New York Hash held occasional hashes in Manhattan during the summer. Both chapters have supported each other, and there are many joint members of the two organizations.

Major New York City H3 annual events currently include the Annual General Meeting (AGM) in May; the Marathon Day Run, ending at the 23rd mile of the Marathon; the Post Marathon Recovery Run, held the day after the Marathon with taxis for who actually ran the 26+ miles; New Year’s Eve at Laird and Christine’s; and HOBARD (Hash Office Bearers Annual Reunion Dinner), a black tie affair.

Mismanagement (2024-present)

Joint Masters
Nerves of Squeal
GrayVee Train

Hare Raiser
Snack Dat Ass

Religious Advisors
Geordi La Foreskin
Ditch Sucker
Prairie Dog’n
Pizza Slut

Hon. Sexcretary
What A C*nt!

Hash Flash
Field of Creams

Haberdasher
Cumligrapher
Dime Store Tom Cruise

Webmasters
Pizza Slut
Mandatory Fun

Special Events Cat Herder/Hash Cash
Love Canal

Mismanagement (2023 – 2024)

Joint Masters
Love Canal
Nerves of Squeal

Hare Raiser
Snack Dat Ass

Religious Advisors
Geordi La Foreskin
Foreign My Twat
Ditch Sucker

Hon. Sexcretary
What A C*nt!

Haberdasher
Cumligrapher

Webmasters
Pizza Slut
Mandatory Fun

Special Events
What A C*nt!

 

Mis-Management (2021 – 2023)

Joint Masters
Pussyfoot
Drop a Pin, Slip It In

Religious Advisors
Cheeky Bastard
Cum on Moses
Nerves of Squeal

Hash Cash
Cheeky Bastard

Webmasters
Pizza Slut
Mandatory Fun

Special Events
What A C*nt!

 

Mis-Management (2019 – 2020)

Joint Masters
Pussyfoot
Drop a Pin, Slip It In

Religious Advisors
Cheeky Bastard

Hareraisers
Nerves of Squeal
Drunksophila Masturbator

Poobah of Special Events
Foreign My Twat

Hash Cash
Fire-in-the-Piehole

Voice of the Hash
Ahoy the Wanker!

Haberdasher
What a C*nt!

Fluffer
Momentarily Vertical
Sinuous

Webmasters
Mandatory Fun
Eager for Beaver
Turd Dimension

Mis-Management (2018 – 2019)

Joint Masters
Cheeky Bastard
Pussyfoot

Religious Advisors
American Dave #6

Hareraisers
Drop a Pin, Slip It In

Poobah of Special Events
Foreign My Twat

Hash Cash
Fire-in-the-Piehole

Voice of the Hash
Ahoy the Wanker!

Haberdasher
That’s Not My Baby

Fluffer
Momentarily Vertical

Webmasters
Eager for Beaver
Turd Dimension

Mis-Management (2017 – 2018)

Joint Masters
Cheeky Bastard
American Dave #6

Religious Advisors
Cosmopolitits

Hareraisers
Epi-penetrated
Pussyfoot

Poobah of Special Events
CPA

Hash Cash
Fire-in-the-Piehole
Skidmark

Voice of the Hash
Ahoy the Wanker!

Haberdasher
Erectionally Challenged
Just Sean

Trailmaster
Metrosweatual

Fluffers
Coneylingus
Momentarily Vertical

Webmasters
Eager for Beaver
Turd Dimension

Mis-Management (2016 – 2017)

Joint Masters
Cheeky Bastard
American Dave #6

Religious Advisors
CPA

Hareraisers
Metrosweatual
Skidmark

Poobah of Special Events
Trips & Balls

Hash Cash
Just Chris
Fire-in-the-Piehole

Voice of the Hash
Ahoy the Wanker!

Haberdasher
Tequila Whore

Trailmaster
Wet Willy

Fluffers
Rapunzel
Coneylingus

News Flash
Speedo Gonzales
Chokes on Dick

Webmasters
Eager for Beaver
Turd Dimension

Mis-Management (2015 – 2016)

Joint Masters
Cheeky Bastard
American Dave #6
Religious Advisors
CPA
C*m Test Dummy
Tequila Whore
Hash Cash
Doggie Erectus
Fire-in-the-Piehold
Haberdasher
Surprise! I’m Illiterate!
Doggie Erectus
Hareraisers
Little Dirty
Trips & Balls
Trailmaster
Wet Willy
Fluffers
Rapunzel
Solar Eclits
News Flash
Speedo Gonzales
Chokes on Dick
Voice of the Hash
Ahoy the Wanker!
Webmasters
Eager for Beaver
Turd Dimension

Mis-Management (May 2014 – May 2015)

Joint Masters
Doggie Erectus
CPA

Religious Advisors
Fast American Dave barrowguard-hash@yahoo.com

Haberdasher
What a C*nt cinnarunner@gmail.com

Hash Cash
Fire-in-the-Piehole andrewnych3@gmail.com

Hareraiser
Solar E’clits

On-sex
Bolly Woodless

News Flash
Speedo Gonzales

Voice of the Hash
Ahoy, the Wanker!

Webmasters
Eager for Beaver e4b@hashnyc.com
Flaccido Domingo john@hashnyc.com

Mis-Management (May 2013 – May 2014)

Joint Masters 

Doggie Erectus

CPA

Religious Advisors 

Fast American Dave barrowguard-hash@yahoo.com

Haberdashers 

What a C*nt cinnarunner@gmail.com

Hash Cash 

Fire-in-the-Piehole andrewnych3@gmail.com

Trailmaster 

Skidmark

Hareraiser 

Solar E’clits Fart

News Flash 

Speedo Gonzales

Voice of the Hash 

Ahoy, the Wanker!

Webmasters 

Eager for Beaver e4b@hashnyc.com

Flaccido Domingo john@hashnyc.com

Mis-Management (May 2012 – May 2013)

Joint Masters

Rack ‘n’ Roll Her racknrollher@hotmail.com

Pimpy Long Stocking

Religious Advisors

Gretel gretel.h3@gmail.com

Fast American Dave barrowguard-hash@yahoo.com

Haberdashers

Ow My Balls

Hash Cash

Fire-in-the-Piehole

Eager for Beaver e4b@hashnyc.com

Trailmaster

Skidmark

On-Sex

What a C*nt! cinnarunner@gmail.com

Hareraiser

Ginger Nail Me gingernailme@gmail.com

Fluffers

Irish Spring

Doggie Erectus

Tit Totaller madamepiehole@gmail.com

News Flash

Speedo Gonzales

Voice of the Hash

Ahoy, the Wanker!

Webmasters

Eager for Beaver e4b@hashnyc.com

Danny Choriki danny@hashnyc.com

Flaccido Domingo john@hashnyc.com

Mis-Management (May 2011 – May 2012)

Joint Masters

Tit Totaller
madamepiehole@gmail.com

Pimpy Long Stocking

Religious Advisors

Fire-in-the-Piehole

Fast American Dave

Haberdashers

Ow My Balls

Ding

Hash Cash

Eager for Beaver
e4b@hashnyc.com

Trailmaster

Wet Willy

On-Sex

Finger F*cked

Doggie Erectus

Hareraiser

Copa Cum Bloody

Fluffers

Fireman Tim

Rack’n’Roll Her
racknrollher@hotmail.com

No, That’s Not My Baby

Trips & Balls

News Flash

Speedo Gonzales

Voice of the Hash

Ahoy, the Wanker!

Webmasters

FMIG

Flaccido Domingo
john@hashnyc.com

Mis-Management (May 2010 – May 2011)

Joint Masters

Fire-in-the-Piehole

Tit Totaller
madamepiehole@gmail.com

Haberdashers

Ow My Balls

Wet Willy

Trailmaster

Splat!
Dr.Splat@gmail.com

On-Sex

Just Brittany

Doggie Erectus

Hareraiser

Rack’n’Roll Her
racknrollher@hotmail.com

Religious Advisors

Fast American Dave

Just Dan

Fluffers

Fireman Tim

Hotrod

Just Rich

Trips & Balls

Hash Cash

Eager for Beaver
e4b@hashnyc.com

News Flash

Noah’s Dinghy

Voice of the Hash

Peter Trunfio

Webmasters

FMIG

Flaccido Domingo
john@hashnyc.com

Mis-Management (May 2009 – May 2010)

Joint Masters

Trips & Balls  (Lauren)

Fire-In-The-Piehole

Haberdashers

Hot Rod

Just Dan

Religious Advisor

Tit Totaller

Hash Cash

Eager for Beaver
e4b@hashnyc.com

News Flash

Noah’s Dinghy

Junky Monkey
hashDoug@hotmail.com

On-Sex

Brittany

Blackout
ewaltari@gmail.com

HareRaiser

Splat!
Dr.Splat@gmail.com

Trailmaster

Roy “Dogface” Gilbert

Fluffers

Rack’n’Roll Her
racknrollher@hotmail.com

Fast American Dave

Voice of the Hash

Peter Trunfio

Webmasters

FMIG

Flaccido Domingo
john@hashnyc.com

Just Jeremy

Mis-Management (May 2008 – May 2009)

Joint Masters

Just Lauren

Eager for Beaver
e4b@hashnyc.com

Haberdasher

Hot Rod

Fluffers

Blackout

Doggy Style

Hare Raiser

Tit Totaller

Hash Cash

Fire-in-the-Piehole

News Flash

Joe Pennsylvania

On-Sex

Noah’s Dinghy

Empress Norma

Trailmaster

Fast American Dave

Voice of the Hash

Peter Trunfio

Webmasters

FMIG

Flaccido Domingo
john@hashnyc.com

Mis-Management (May 2007 – May 2008)

Joint Masters

Jumpin’ Jack Gash

Eager for Beaver
e4b@hashnyc.com

Religious Advisor

FMIG

On-Sex

Blackout

Hash Cash

Fire-in-the-Piehole

Hare Raiser

Just Lauren

Haberdasher

Hot Rod

Trail Master

Joe Pennsylvania

Minister of Pubic Relations and Official Fluffer

Doggy Style

Voice of the Hash

Peter Trunfio

Web Masters

Danny Choriki

Flaccido Domingo

Mis-Management (May 2006 – May 2007)

Joint Masters

Mean Jean the Down Down Machine

Jumpin’ Jack Gash

Religious Advisor

Cockstar

On-Sex

Fire-in-the-Piehole

Jenn

Joe Pennsylvania

Hash Cash

Wet Connection
Email:  wetconnection@hashnyc.com

Hare Raiser

Lesley

Haberdasher

Tim
Email:   e4b@hashnyc.com

Trail Master

Devo

Web Master

Danny Choriki

Flaccido Domingo

Mis-Management (May 2005 – May 2006)

Joint Masters

Mean Jean the Down Down Machine

Jumpin’ Jack Gash

On-Sex

Cockstar

Flaccido Domingo

Fire-in-the-Piehole

Hash Cash

Got Wood?

Hare Raiser

Mastercard

Haberdasher

US Marine Whore

Stacia

Trail Master

Devo

Hash Historian

Head Up Ass

Web Master

Danny Choriki

Mis-Management (May 2004 – May 2005)

Joint Masters

Got Wood? (Heather Malloy)

Dave Long

On-Sex

Mean Jean the Down Down Machine (Jean Marie Kelly)

Cockstar (Alison)

Hash Cash

Peter Trunfio

Hare Raiser

Jumpin Jack Gash (Kyle)

Chief Haberdasher

Bottom

Religious Advisor & Trail Master

Head Up Ass (Jason Nuttall)

Web Master

Danny Choriki
Email: danny at hashnyc.com

Minister of Pubic Relations and Official Fluffer

Magoo (Tom)
Email: magoo at hashnyc.com

Past Mis-Management

May 2003 – May 2004

Joint Masters

Head Up Ass (Jason Nuttall)
Got Wood? (Heather Malloy) (Since September 2003)
Wet Connection (Christine Hinz) (Until September 2003)

On-Sex

Mean Jean the Down Down Machine (Jean Marie Kelly)
Sarah Downunder (Sarah Willis)

Hash Cash

Peter Trunfio

Hare Raiser

Baboon Ass (Ewa Mobus)

Chief Haberdasher

Bottom (Official Fluffer until January 2004)

Trail Master

Jesse Picunko

Web Master

Danny Choriki

Minister of Pubic Relations and Official Fluffer

Magoo (Tom)(started January 2004)

May 2002 – May 2003

Joint Masters

Wet Connection (Christine Hinz)
Head Up Ass (Jason Nuttall) (Starting October 2002)
Dave Long (Until September 2002)

On-Sex – Sarah Downunder (Sarah Willis)

Hash Cash – Peter Trunfio

Hare Raiser – Got Wood? (Heather Malloy)

Trail Master – Baboon Ass (Ewa Mobus)

Haberdasher – Mean Jean the Down Down Machine (Jean Marie Kelly) & Head Up Ass (Jason Nuttall)

Web Master – Danny Choriki

May 2001 – May 2002

Joint Masters – Peter Trunfio & Dave Long

On-Sex – Wet Connection (Christine Hinz) & Got Wood? (Heather Malloy)

Hash Cash – Dogface (Roy Gilbert)

Hare Raiser and Trail Master – Baboon Ass (Ewa Mobus)

Haberdasher – Sarah Downunder (Sarah Willis) & Sticky (Tim Hamilton)

Web Master – Danny Choriki

 

Latest NYCH3 Writeups

New York City Hash Writeups

Date Run
No.
Start and Finish Hare Scribe
4/28/02 936 Start:
On-In: Cannons
Alice and Geoff Heather Malloy
4/21/02 935 Start:
On-In: Westside Brewery
Bahamonde and Diane Heather Malloy
4/14/02 934 Start: GPO 10001
On-In: 37th and 3rd
Crusty and Jesse Heather Malloy
3/10/02 929 Start: Port Authority Bus Terminal
On-In: Collins Bar
DBB Heather Malloy
3/3/02 928 Start: Grand Army Plaza
On-In: Eighty 1 Nine?
Aussie Sarah and Polish Andres Heather Malloy
2/10/02 925 Start: Far Rockaway
On-In: O’Healy’s
Fluffy Lockerman Heather Malloy
1/13/02 921 Start: 301 E 51st
On-In: Jake’s Dilemma
Mickey Mouth & Dave “Too” Long Heather Malloy
1/6/02 920 Start: Village Nursing Home
On-In: Village Idiot
Fireman Bob and Wet & Sticky Heather Malloy
8/8/01 897 Start: Bowling Green
On-In: Carriage House, E59 St.
Cree and Mike Hoffman Heather Malloy
7/18/01 894 Start: 14th & 7th
On-In: Flannery’s, 14th & 7th
Dave Long Heather Malloy
7/11/01 893 Start: Provence Restaurant, McDougal & Prince
On-In: Puffy’s, Hudson St.
Ewa Mobus & Heather Malloy Christine Hinz
7/4/01 892 Start: Kew Garden stop N/R line Queens
On-In: “On In One” Club house bar, Kasenna Golf Course Queens
Action Man Vince Cloud aka Viagra Spice
6/27/01 891 Start: 68th St. and Lexington Ave.
On-In: The Big Easy, 2nd & 92nd
John and Aleks O’Connor Christine Hinz
6/20/01 890 Start: 110th & Lexington
On-In: Hooligan’s
Fireman Bob, Lipstick Leslie, Ed Lynch Heather Malloy
6/13/01 889 Start: Lincoln Centre
On-In: Carriage House, E59 St.
Slow to Blow and Junior Heather Malloy
6/6/01 888 Start: British Consulate
On-In: Waterside Towers Bar & Grill
Mike Murphy & Steve Douglass Christine Hinz
5/30/01 887 Start: 23rd and 7th Avenue
On-In: Garden Tavern, 32nd & 8th
Fireman Bob and Lipstick Leslie Christine Hinz
5/23/01 886 Start: 125th St. & Malcolm X Blvd.
On-In: Jake’s Dilemma, Amsterdam & 81st
Slow To Blow & Chris Rust Heather Malloy
5/16/01 885 Start: Roosevelt Island
On-In: The Carriage House, E59th St.
Elaine Kerr Christine Hinz
5/9/01 884 Start: Broadway & Cedar
On-In: Raccoon Lodge, Warren St.
Dave Long & Peter Trunfio Heather Malloy
5/5/01 883 Start: Columbus Circle
On-In: The Back Page, 3rd & 83rd
THE BIG AGM WRITEUP
Roy Gilbert & Peter Trunfio Christine Hinz
4/30/01 882 Start: CPW & 96th
On-In: Westside Brewing Company, Amsterdam & 76th
Dave Hardman Hardy & Laird Stiefvater Heather Malloy
4/21/01 881 Start: Off The Wagon, MacDougal St.
On-In: Ace Bar, 5th & Ave.C
RED DRESS RUN
Chris Troise, Jimmy Akhbari, Rick Chann Christine Hinz
4/15/01 880 Start: Broadway/Lafayette on 6 train
On-In: Tom & Jerry’s
Fluffy Lockerman Scot Gleason
4/8/01 879 Start: 96th & CPW
On-In: Dive Bar, 96th & Amsterdam
Dave The Body Croft & Steve Brett Melissa Schimke
4/1/01 878 Start: Times Square
On-In: Malachy’s, W72 St.
Elaine Kerr & Crazy Bob Peter Trunfio
3/25/01 877 Start: Astor Place
On-In: Puffy’s, Hudson St.
Alice Harrison & Pat Flanagan Christine Hinz
3/18/01 876 Start: St. Patrick’s Cathedral
On-In: Bar None, 3rd & 12th
Basil Ashmore & John Cardinal O’Connor Heather Malloy
3/11/01 875 On-In: Reade St. pub Pat Cuff & Danny Choriki Heather Malloy
3/4/01 874 On-In: Mug Shot Bar Paul Ashlin & Sara Willis Heather Malloy
2/27/01 873 Start: Kingsbridge on 4 train
On-In: Woodlawn Cafe, Woodlawn 4 train stop
Roy Gilbert and Ewa Mobus Danny Choriki
2/18/01 872 Start: Brighton Beach on the D
On-In: The (Something) Saloon
Annual Polar Bear Run/Swim
Fluffy & Lipstick Leslie Christine Hinz
2/10/01 871 On-In: The Bar Formerly Known As Boo Radleys Steve Brett and Matt Fludgate Heather Malloy
2/4/01 870 Start: Roosevelt Island
On-In: Astoria somewhere
Dave Byron-Brown & Dave Long Christine Hinz
1/28/01 869 On-In: Chez Trisha Trisha Hoffman, Ed Lynch, Fireman Bob Heather Malloy
1/21/01 868 On-In: Jeremy’s Ale House, near Fulton fish market Cree Lawson, George & Cole Corwin Heather Malloy
1/14/01 867 Start: 72nd & Broadway
On-In: Dive 75, 75th & Columbus
Michele Thompson & John Dogz Bollox Burke Christine Hinz
1/7/01 866 Ellen O’Dee’s, 40th & Lex Lesley Brough & Kyle Krall Heather Malloy
12/30/00 865 Start: Chambers & Hudson
On-In: Reade St. Pub
Danny Choriki & Crazy Bob White Christine Hinz
12/24/00 864 Start: South St. Seaport
On-In: Ryan’s, nearby
Dave The Body Croft Peter Trunfio
12/17/00 863 Start: 23rd & 3rd
On-In: Another Bar, 32nd & 2nd
Dave Long & Melissa Schimke Christine Hinz
12/10/00 862 Garden Tavern, 32nd & 8th
Sancta Lucia Run
Fluffy, Alison Hope, Rudy Klein Heather Malloy & Christine Hinz
12/3/00 861 On-In: Coogan’s, way uptown Daniel Salchow, Ted Pitt, Tim Urekew Heather Malloy
11/26/00 860 On-In: Garden Tavern, 32nd & 8th Christine Hinz Heather Malloy
11/19/00 859 Start: 200th St./Dyckman Ave.
On-In: Bronx somewhere
Roy Aneeva Christine Hinz
11/12/00 858 Start: 96th & Lex
On-In: Hooligan’s, 94th & 2nd.
Scot Gleason & Devo Heather Malloy
11/4/00 – 11/6/00 856/857 Marathon Weekend happenings Various Christine Hinz & Tiger’s Woody
10/22/00 854 Start: 2nd Avenue & Houston
On-In: Coyote Ugly, 1st Ave. & 11th
Rick Chann Heather Malloy
10/15/00 853 Start: Woodlawn subway
On-In: South Bend, Broadway & 252nd
Devo Christine Hinz
10/8/00 852(2) Start: 72nd & CPW
On-In: Dive Bar, 96th & Amsterdam
Pete “Bomber” Lancaster & John Burke Christine Hinz
10/4/00 852(1) Start: World Trade Centre
On-In: G.B. Shaw’s, Fulton St.
Peter Trunfio Heather Malloy
9/27/00 852 Start: 23rd & 5th
On-In: Dewey’s Flatiron, 25th & 5th
Debbie Ulis & Laura Johnson Heather Malloy
9/20/00 851 Start: 42nd & 9th
On-In: Tobacco Road, 41st & 9th
Dave O’Donnell & Crazy Bob Heather Malloy
9/13/00 850 Start: 1st Ave. & 51st St.
On-In: McQuaid’s, 44th & 11th
Sucks After Dark Dr. Seuss a.k.a. Pat Cuff
9/6/00 849 Start: Bryant Park
On-In: The Back Page, 3rd & 84th
Peter The Brit & Invisible Alistair Christine Hinz
8/30/00 848 Start: 6th Ave. & Central Park South
On-In: Malachy’s, 72nd & Columbus
Elaine Kerr & Chris Rust Christine Hinz
8/23/00 847 Start: 14th & 7th
On-In: Flannery’s, 5 yards from start
Danny Choriki & Heather Malloy Dave Long
8/16/00 846 Start: Washington Square Park
On-In: The Village Idiot, 14th & 9th
Michael Bahamonde & Melanie Ashmore Heather Malloy
8/9/00 845 Start: 77th & Lex
On-In: Reif’s, 92nd & 2nd
Dave Long & Melissa Schimke Christine Hinz
8/2/00 844 Start: Union Square South
On-In: Gold Rush, 10th Ave. & 37th
Chris Troise & Jimmy Akhbari Heather Malloy
7/26/00 843 Start: Union Square South
On-In: Antarctica, Hudson St.
Peter Trunfio Detective Inspector Friday a.k.a Pat Cuff
7/19/00 842 Start: Rockefeller Centre
On-In: Jake’s Dilemma, Amsterdam & 81st
Slow To Blow & Christine Hinz Heather Malloy
7/12/00 841 Start: L’Alliance Francaise, E60th St.
On-In: Sandy’s Place, 2nd & 37th
Ariane Juzen, Ewa Mobus & Froggy Christine Hinz
7/5/00 840 Start: 42nd & 3rd
On-In: Nevada Smith’s, 3rd Ave. & 11th
Dave Byron-Brown Heather Malloy
6/28/00 839 Start: William & Fulton
On-In: G.B. Shaw’s, Fulton St.
Andy Hedgehog Millard & Beth Scarborough Christine Hinz
6/21/00 838 Start: Plaza Hotel, 59th & 5th
On-In: Richter’s, 90th & 3rd
Geoff Baldwin, Alice Harrison Heather Malloy
6/14/00 837 Start: 59th & Lex
On-In: Backpage, 83rd & 3rd
Lesley Brough, Matt Fludgate Danny Chokiri
6/7/00 836 Start: Columbus Circle
On-In: Dive Bar, 96th & Amsterdam
Slow To Blow, Ann-Marie Joyce Chris Rust
5/31/00 835 Start: Wall St. & Broadway
On-In: Blarney Something, Water St.
Devo Christine Hinz
5/24/00 834 Start: Christopher St. on 1,9
On-In: Off The Wagon, McDougall St.
Scot Gleason, It’s Pat Cuff (the horror, the horror…) Christine ‘n’ Heather
5/17/00 833 Start: 23rd & 8th
On-In: Bar None, 12 St. & 3rd Ave.
John O’Connor, Aleks Tkocz Rick Chann
5/14/00 – post-AGM recovery run 832 Start: Columbus Circle
On-In: Reif’s, 92nd & 2nd
Incoming JMs Roy Gilbert & Peter Trunfio Christine Hinz
5/13/00 – AGM 831 Start: Union Square
On-In: Ukrainian National Home, 2nd & 11th
Hares: Outgoing JMs Roy Gilbert & Lesley Brough New on-sex Christine Hinz & Heather Malloy
5/7/00 830 Start: 125th & Broadway
On-in: Broadway Dive, 102nd & Broadway
Dave Hardy, John Burke, Bill Janeway, Doug Guiley Dave Long
4/30/00 829 Start: 72nd & CPW
On-In: Bear Bar, 73rd & Broadway
Rick Chann & Michele Thompson Dave Long
4/22/00 – Red Dress Run 828 Start: Near Bull McCabe’s, St. Mark’s Place
On-in: Off The Wagon, McDougall St.
Chris Donkey Dong Troise, Jimmy Akhbari & Rick Chann Davina Long
4/2, 9, 16/2000 825, 826, 827 Various Various Dave Long
3/26/00 823 Start: 86th & Lex
On-In: Westside Brewing Company, Amsterdam & 76th
Dave Long & Melissa Schimke Dave Long
3/19/00 – St. Patrick’s Day Mk.II 822 Start: Old St. Patrick’s Cathedral, Mott St.
On-in: Paddy O’Reilly’s, 1st & 32nd
John O’Connor & Basil Ashmore Dave Long
Run No.’s 820 and 821. 820, 821 Various Various Idaho Sue,
Christine Hinz
Run No.’s 817, 818, 819 817, 818, 819 Various Various Various
2/13/2000 817 Start: Sacred Heart Church, E33St. On-In: The Carriage House, E59St. Lesley Brough & Peter Trunfio Heather Malloy
2/6/00 816 Start: Canal St. & Varick
On-In: Mojo’s, Houston & Allen
Ariane Juzen, Heather Malloy Dave Long
1/30/00 815 Start: NFL Headquarters, Park & 48th
On-In: Chez Trisha
Danny Chokiri, Trisha Hoffman, It’s Pat Cuff Christine Hinz
1/23/00 814 Start: Union Square
On-In: Coyote Ugly, 1st Ave. & 11th
Ed Lynch, Scot Gleason, Mickey Mouth Dave Long
1/16/2000 813 Start: W3 St. & 6th Ave.
On-In: The Village Idiot, 14th & 9th
Pierre Soncke & Steve Yoman Dave Long
1/9/2000 812 Start: 181st on the A
On-In: Cannon’s, 103rd & Broadway
Slow To Blow & Mickey Mouth Dave Long
1/1/2000 808 Start: Times Square.
On In: Shandon Star, Eighth Avenue between 55th and 56th Streets.
Keith Kanaga Mickey Mouth
New Year’s Party na na na na
11/28/99 803 Start: 207th Street and Broadway.
On In: Woodlwan Caffe, 213th Street and Jerome Avenue, Bronx
Roy Gilbert,
Viagra Vince Cloud
Dave Long
11/14/99 801 Start: 181st Street and Fort Washington Avenue.
On In: Cannon’s 108th Street and Broadway.
Marcus “Devo” Schodorf,
Danielle Farrell
Dave Long
11/7/99 800 Start: Guggenheim Museum, 89th Street and Fifth Avenue.
On In: Mile 23 and a bit, NYC Marathon.
On On In: Jake’s Dilemma, Amsterdam Avenue and 81st Street.
J.M.’s Lesley Brough,
Roy Gilbert
Christine Hinz
10/31/99 798 Start: Slaughtered Lamb Pub, West 4th Street.
On In: Off the Wagon, McDougal Street.
Chris Troise,
Mike Hoffman
Davina Long
10/17/99 796 Start: Woodlawn Station, Bronx.
On-In:Station Tavern, 231st Street and Broadway, Bronx.
Roy Gilbert,
Michele Thompson,
Rick Chann
Dave Long
10/10/99 795 Start: 79th Street and Broadway.
On-In: Dive Bar, 96th Street and Amsterdam
Scott Gleason,
Elliot Sobel
Chris Troise,
Dave Long
10/3/99 794 Start: 211th & Broadway.
On-In: Irish Eyes, just north of the start.
Dave Hard Man Hardy &
John Dog’s Bollocks Burke
David Byron-Brown
9/29/99 793 Start: Washington Square Park.
On-In: The Village Idiot, 14th & 9th.
Paul Ashlin,
Patrick Reagan
Dave Long
9/15/99 791 Start: 77th & Lexington Ave.
On-In: American Trash, 1st Ave. & 76th.
Tricia Hoffman,
Marie Wickham
Dave Long
9/8/99 790 Start: Rector St. station.
On-In: O’Keeffe’s, Court St., Brooklyn.
The Senior Half of the 4 British Daves (Byron-Brown & Croft) Dave Long
9/1/99 789 Start: 125th & Broadway.
On-In: Cherokee Phoenix, 88th & Amsterdam.
Mike “Slow To Blow” Andonov,
Ewa “Slow To Drink” Mobus
Dave Long
8/18/99 787 Start: Houston & Varick.
On-In: Westside Tavern, 23rd & 9th .
On-On-In: Flight 151, Chelsea somewhere.
Heather Malloy,
Michael Bahamonde
Dave Long
8/11/99 786 Start: 96th & Lexington.
On-In: Jake’s Dilemma
Bo Petkovich,
Joe Bencivenga
Dave Long
8/4/99 785 Start: Chez James Dean, 19 West 68th Street.
On-In: Cherokee Phoenix, Amsterdam and 88th Street
Chris Troise,
Jimmy Akhbari
Dave Long
7/28/99 784 Start: Police Booth, 43rd Street and Broadway.
On-In: Rudy’s, 9th Avenue and 44th Street
Marc “Devo” Schodorf,
John “Dumb Dick” Hartley
Dave Long
7/21/99 783 Start: South Ferry
On On: Blarney Stone, Greenwich and Morris
Buncha Belgians Dave Long
7/14/99 782 Start: French Consulate, 74th Street and Fifth Avenue.
On-In: Jean-Jacque’s Dilemme
Miho Kimura, Ariane Juzen, Alice, Joy, “and any other French speaking bastard that cared to join them” Chris Troise
7/7/99 781 Start: 96th & Broadway.
On-in: Hogs & Heifers, 95th & 1st
Michele Thompson & Janet Slobodian Dave Long
6/30/99 780 Start: Vicinity of 191st & Broadway On-in: Station Tavern, 231st & Broadway, Da Bronx. Roy Aneeva Dave “Alright Shorts” Long
6/23/99 779 Start: Grand Street Subway Stop.
On-In: Café Right Bank, Brooklyn
Jerry Nelson Chris Troise
6/9/99 777 Start: 59th Street and Columbus Circle.
On-In: M-something or other on 77th Street or so and Columbus Avenue.
Michael Bahamonde,
Jennifer Fust
Chris Troise,
Crazy Bob
6/2/99 776 Start: 66th Street and Broadway.
On-in: Cannon’s, 108th Street and Broadway
Elaine Kerr-amer,
“It’s” Pat Cuff
Dave Long
5/26/99 775 Start: 103rd Street and Broadway.
On-in: Cowboy Bar, 78th Street and 1st Avenue
Melanie Ashmore,
Joe Bencivenga
Dave Long
5/19/99 774 Start: Astor Place.
On-in: Antarctica, Hudson St., South Pole
Alice Harrison,
Geoff Baldwin
Tricia Hoffman
5/12/99 773 Start: 77th Street and Lexington Avenue. On-in: Beacon Hill, 76th Street and 1st Avenue. Lesley Brough Dave Long
5/5/99 772 Start: City Hall.
On-in: Nevada Smith, 3rd Avenue and 11th Street
Dave Byron-Brown, Dave “Too” Long #1: Too Long
#2: Ciderman
5/2/99 771 Start: 72nd Street and Central Park West.
On-in: Reif’s Tavern, 92nd Street and 2nd Avenue
JM’s Roy Gilbert,
Lesley Brough
Dave Too Long
5/1/99 770 Start: Washington Square Park.
On-in: Ukrainian National Home, 2nd Ave and 9th Street.
JM’s David Croft,
Vince Cloud
Chris Troise
4/25/99 769 Start: 96th Street & Amsterdam Avenue. Finish: ? Ross Holden Mike Hoffman
4/11/99 767 Start and Finish: Village Idiot, 14th Street and 9th Avenue. Second Annual Red Dress Run. Chris Troise,
Rick Chann,
James Akhbari
8 Yellow Snow, Long Beach H3
3/14/99 763 Start: St. Patrick’s Cathedral (51st St & 5th Ave).
On-In: Paddy Reilly’s (29th St. & 2nd Ave)
John O’Connor,
Basil Ashmore
Mike Hoffman
2/27/99 761 Start: West 10th st. & Hudson St.
On-In: The 19th Hole. (19th St. & 3rd Ave).
Kerry McVeigh,
Mike Murphy
Mike Hoffman
2/20/99 760 Start: Brighton Beach stop on D/Q line
On-In: Atlantic Ocean!! @ Brighton Beach.
On-On-In: Russian Restaurant on the Beach (offering Barrel drinks!)
On-On-On-In: Captain Walters in Sheepshead Bay.
Jerry “Fluffy Lockerman” Nelson,
Pierre Sonke
Mike Hoffman
2/16/99 Hogwash 1 I Trulli, 122 East 27th Street Roy Gilbert Miho Kimura
2/14/99 759 Start: Upper Montclair bus stop on the DeCamp line.
On On: Just Fate, Montclair.
Jerry McKenzie Keith Kanaga
1/31/99 757 Start: 116th St. & Broadway (Columbia Univiversity).
On-In: Trisha Hoffman’s (537 East 87th Street).
Ed Lynch,
David Godbold
Michael Hoffman
1/17/99 755 Start: 82nd Street & 3rd Avenue.
On-In: Beacon Hill Ale House (77th Street & 1st Avenue)
Joe Bencivenga,
Bo Petkovich
Michael Hoffman
1/10/99 754 Start: Mustang Sally’s (28th Street & 7th Avenue).
On-In: Blarney Stone (30th Street & 9th Avenue)
Michael Hoffman,
Chris Troise
Mickey Mouth from Shanghai
1/3/99 753 Start: 86th Street and Central Park West.
On On: Tap-A-Keg, 105th Street and Broadway
Dave Croft,
Roy Gilbert
Michael Hoffman
12/13/98 749 Start: Woodlawn stop on the 4.
On In: Some bar at the Bronx terminus of the 2 and 3.
John Burke,
Doug Guiley
Mike Hoffman
12/6/98 748 Start: Broadway between 50th and 51st Streets.
On In: Village Idiot
Chris Troise,
Jimmy Akhbari
Mike Hoffman
11/29/98 747 Start: 207th Street on the A line.
On In: Pauline and Rodgers, Broadway and 236th Street, Bronx, NY
Roy Gilbert,
Ewa Mobus
Vince Cloud
11/22/98 746 Start: 77th Street and Lexington Avenue.
On-In: Racoon Lodge.
Peter Trunfio Mike Hoffman
11/15/198 745 Start: West 4th Street & 6th Ave.
On-In: Antartica, Hudson & Spring Streets
Arianne Juzen
Miho
Mike Hoffman
11/8/98 744 Start: 6 East 44th St.
On In: Racoon Lodge, 84th Street and Amsterdam Avenue
Bo Petkovich
Joe Bencivenga
tbd
11/2/98 743 Start: Plaza Hotel, 59th Street and Fifth Avenue.
On In: Carriage House, 59th Street between 2nd and 3rd Avenues.
Keith Kanaga Scribe Needed
11/1/98 742 Start: 86th St. & 5th Ave.
On-In: Just past Mile 23.
On-On-In: Jake’s Dilemma, 82nd St. & Amsterdam Ave
Trisha Hoffman Mike Hoffman
10/30/98 741 Start: New York Public Library, 42nd Street and Fifth Avenue.
On In: tbd
Mike Bahamonde Scribe Needed
10/25/98 740 Start: Bowling Green
On On: Ryans
Steve Brett Judy Ross
8/26/98 731 Start: Columbus Circle
On On: Jake’s Dilemma
British Daves Michael Hoffman
8/19/98 730 Start: 23rd Street and 7th Avenue.
On-In: Flannery’s, 14th and 7th
Matt Fludgate,
Kerry McVeigh
Christopher Troise
6/17/98 721 Start: Lexington Ave/77th Street.
On In: Hogs & Heifers (East) @ 95th St and First Avenue
Vince Cloud Geoff Baldwin
5/20/98 717 tbd Roy Gilbert Trisha Hoffman
4/5/98 709 Start: Village Idiot, 14ths Street and 9th Avenue.
On-On: Ditto
Chris Troise,
Rick Chann
David Croft
3/15/98 706 Start: Old St. Patrick’s Cathedral, Mott Street near Houston Street.
On-In: Fiddlesticks, Greenwich Avenue near 7th Avenue
Basil Ashmore,
John O’Connor
Dave Byron-Brown
3/8/98 705 Start 86th Street and Broadway.
On-In: Mug Shot Bar @ 75th St. and 1st Avenue.
Petra Heitmann,
Chris Troise
Paul Ashlin
3/1/98 704 Start: 86th Street and Lexington Ave.
On-In: Bradys 1583 Second Avenue
Bo Petkovich,
Joe Bencivenga.
Alice Harrison
2/22/98 703 Start: Grand Army Plaza, Brooklyn.
On-In: The Gate, 3rd Street & 5th Avenue, Brooklyn
Roy Gilbert,
Pierre Sonke
David Croft
2/15/98 702 Start: 41st Street & 1st Avenue.
On-In: Ship Of Fools, 83rd Street & 2nd Avenue
Steve Brett Dave Byron-Brown
2/1/98 700 Start: New York Public Library, Fifth Avenue and 41st Street.
On-In:Crossroads, 77th Street and Second Avenue
Joint Master David Croft Steve Kurtzer
1/25/98 699 Start: Central Park West and 86th Street.
On-In: Trisha Hoffman’s Apartment, 537 East 87th Street
Jon Glanville Steve Kurtzer
1/18/98 698 Start: Union Square West and 14th Street.
On-In: Coyote Ugly Saloon, First Avenue between 9th and 10th Streets
Rick Chann,
Bill Humnicky
Steve Kurtzer
1/11/98 697 Start: Spring and Lafayette Streets.
On-In: Blind Tiger Ale House, Hudson and West 10th Streets
Ewa Mobus Steve Kurtzer
12/31/97,

1/1/98,

1/4/98

New Year’s Eve Party,

695,

696

New Year’s Eve: Dive 75, 75th Street and Columbus Avenue;

695 – Start: 75th Street and Columbus Avenue
On-In: McAleer’s Pub Amsterdam Avenue and 80th Street;

696 – Start: Columbus Circle, Eighth Avenue and 59th Street On-In: Village Idiot 14th Street and 9th Avenue

The Committee,

Keith Kanaga,

Laird Stiefvater

Steve Kurtzer12/28/97694Start: Third Avenue and 53rd Street
On-In: Dive Bar Amsterdam Avenue and 96th StreetSteve Kurtzer Dave Byron-Brown12/21/97693Start: Metropolitan Avenue/Middle Village Queens
On-In: 11th Alley 71-36 Myrtle Avenue, GlendaleDave Byron-BrownSteve Kurtzer12/14/97692Start: Rockefeller Center
On-In: Jake’s Dilemma Amsterdam Avenue and 81st StreetJerry Nelson,
Allison Hope,
Bjorn Thegeby,
Aleks Tkocz,
Rudy KleinSteve Kurtzer12/7/97691Start: Grand Central Station.
On-In: Carriage House, 59th Street between Second and Third AvenuesYoshi Ozaki,
Elaine Kerr,
Petra HeitmannSteve Kurtzer11/30/97690Start: Third Avenue and 87th Street.
On-In: Iggy’s, Second Avenue between 75th and 76th Streets.Joint Master Lisa Unger,
Trisha HoffmanSteve Kurtzer11/26/97689Start: Central Park West and 72nd Street.
On-In: Tap-A-Keg, Broadway and 104th Street.Vince Cloud,
Kathy FriedmanSteve Kurtzer11/23/97688Start: Central Park West and 79th Street
On-In: Dive Bar Amsterdam Avenue and 96th Street Dave Hardy and
Bubbles (Jeff from the West London H3)Steve Kurtzer11/16/97687Start: Broadway and Houston Street
On-In: Boo Radley’s 11 Waverly PlacePierre Sonke,
Ariane JuzenSteve Kurtzer11/9/97686Start: Hoboken, NJ PATH Station
On-In: Cryan’s Exchange 110 First Street, HobokenRobert White,
Steve BrettSteve Kurtzer11/2/97685Start: Guggenheim Museum Fifth Avenue and 88th Street
On-In: Marathon Mile 23 inside Central Park.
On-On-In: Beacon Hill Ale House, 1470 First Avenue between 76th and 77th StreetsJoint Master
David CroftSteve Kurtzer,
Michael Hoffman11/1/97684Start: Columbus Circle, Eighth Avenue and 59th Street.
On-In: Shandon Star, Eighth Avenue between 55th and 56th StreetsMichael HoffmanSteve Kurtzer10/26/97683Start: Chambers and Varick Streets
On-In: The North River Bar 145 Hudson StreetRick Chann
Paul AshlinSteve Kurtzer10/19/97682Start: Hoboken, NJ PATH Station
On-In: Cryan’s Exchange 110 First Street, HobokenDave Hardy,
Steve BrettSteve Kurtzer10/15/97681Start: Lexington Avenue and 89th Street.
On-In: Kelly’s Korner Second Avenue and 89th StreetTom ChurchSteve Kurtzer10/8/97680Start: Madison Square Park Broadway and 23rd Street.
On-In: Bulls Head, Third Avenue between 22nd and 23rd StreetsMatt Fludgate
Sue SzubertSteve Kurtzer